DOT Drug Testing: Urinalysis Or Hair Follicle?
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If I was a person with shoulder length hair who had not consumed cannabis for the past year, I'd shave my head, break out a bottle of Nair, and hop in the shower. My attitude is, when your employment is at stake, don't take any chances.
Hypothetically, would a person with shoulder length hair who has not consumed cannabis for the past year need to cut their hair?
Thank you for your reply. From what I understand, many/most companies do not go past 90 days (the 1.5 inches of hair closest to the scalp).
However, with long hair it would be possible to check back farther should the company choose to (and apparently those tests are more expensive).
I'm in agreeance with you about not taking chances with respect to one's career. With that in mind, the hypothetical long hair who hasn't consumed cannabis in 365+ days could theoretically cut all but about 5 to 6 inches of their hair and be good for the test, if I'm understanding everything correctly (hopefully this can be confirmed in the thread).
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.OOS:
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
Shaving your head and using Nair throughout your body is BAD advice.
go in with a shaved head and they will take the hair from other places, but go in with NO hair and hou get a "refused/failed DOT drug test" on your record which you do not want.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
LOL! Obviously, I forgot to mention the part about letting it grow out a bit before the test.
Shaving your head and using Nair throughout your body is BAD advice.
go in with a shaved head and they will take the hair from other places, but go in with NO hair and hou get a "refused/failed DOT drug test" on your record which you do not want.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Hey everyone. so im looking to see if Trans-system (system transport- twt and one more i cant remember the name of) do they do hair test? it seems that list was updated in 2015 and saw one mixed comment about if they did or not
Good morning guys and gals,
One of the number one questions asked about trucking companies in YouTube comments has to do with drug testing policy (UA or HF). Many/most of the companies listed in the link below haven't been updated in a number of years. I 'm curious to know if/when this list will be completely updated. Are forum users, such as myself, permitted to compile data and submit it so we have a more updated list? Thanks.
BMI:
Body mass index (BMI)
BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:
- Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
- Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit
It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.
Are forum users, such as myself, permitted to compile data and submit it so we have a more updated list?
Yes, absolutely. We publish changes as we hear about them. Generally speaking, once a company starts doing hair follicle testing they never stop and revert to urinalysis only. So it's really a matter of knowing which companies only do urinalysis. It won't be much longer before almost all companies do hair follicle, but we're not there yet.
But yeah, if anyone knows of any updates that need to be made to the list, let us know. We'll publish the updates.
BMI:
Body mass index (BMI)
BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:
- Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
- Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit
It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.
OWI:
Operating While Intoxicated
Millis Transfer, as of May 2018, was urinalysis only
Updated by Moderator:
Great news folks! We now have several awesome pages of information in our Trucker's Wiki about drug and alcohol testing:
Alcohol and Drug Policies & Testing
This is the main topic and it covers the Federal policies on who is tested, how often they're tested, and what drugs they test for.
DOT Drug And Alcohol Testing Information & Methods
This subtopic gives more specific information about the various types of tests that are done, what they detect, and how long they will detect it
Hair Follicle vs. Urinalysis: Breakdown By Company
This subtopic gives specific information about which types of testing are done by the various companies and when we received our last information on the company.
We'll continue to use this conversation to collect information and answer questions. All of the information we gather will be kept up to date in our wiki.
I get asked privately on a regular basis which companies do hair follicle testing and which ones do urinalysis. We're going to use this conversation to gather information on the various companies.
If you'd prefer to keep this private because you don't want people knowing which company you work for I'm totally cool with that. Click on my name to the left of this message and it will take you to my profile. You'll see a link that says "Would you like to send Brett a private message?" Click on that and shoot me a private message. I don't care who you are or who you work for. I just want to be able to help people get their trucking careers underway and help them prepare for any challenges that lie ahead.
Thanks!!!!!!
Was in hospital, last time I took hydrocodone was early May, I have an electronic doctors note with letter head detailing this, and a doctors release to go back to work...Would I pop positive with over 5 months since? Do the chemical markers stay on hair not cut(have a forest of chest hair, not cut in years), cut head hair regularly... What I was wondering was would markers be left on chest hair that grew back in May...? I know I have the note, last time I worked for them they were known to reject a doctors note because it didn't say exactly what they wanted.... Finally start Monday, get tested next week, going to be a dedicated route with regular time off...
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Dedicated Route:
A driver or carrier who transports cargo between regular, prescribed routes. Normally it means a driver will be dedicated to working for one particular customer like Walmart or Home Depot and they will only haul freight for that customer. You'll often hear drivers say something like, "I'm on the Walmart dedicated account."
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.OWI:
Operating While Intoxicated
What did they want on the doctor's report?
Updated by Moderator:
Great news folks! We now have several awesome pages of information in our Trucker's Wiki about drug and alcohol testing:
Alcohol and Drug Policies & Testing
This is the main topic and it covers the Federal policies on who is tested, how often they're tested, and what drugs they test for.
DOT Drug And Alcohol Testing Information & Methods
This subtopic gives more specific information about the various types of tests that are done, what they detect, and how long they will detect it
Hair Follicle vs. Urinalysis: Breakdown By Company
This subtopic gives specific information about which types of testing are done by the various companies and when we received our last information on the company.
We'll continue to use this conversation to collect information and answer questions. All of the information we gather will be kept up to date in our wiki.
I get asked privately on a regular basis which companies do hair follicle testing and which ones do urinalysis. We're going to use this conversation to gather information on the various companies.
If you'd prefer to keep this private because you don't want people knowing which company you work for I'm totally cool with that. Click on my name to the left of this message and it will take you to my profile. You'll see a link that says "Would you like to send Brett a private message?" Click on that and shoot me a private message. I don't care who you are or who you work for. I just want to be able to help people get their trucking careers underway and help them prepare for any challenges that lie ahead.
Thanks!!!!!!
Was in hospital, last time I took hydrocodone was early May, I have an electronic doctors note with letter head detailing this, and a doctors release to go back to work...Would I pop positive with over 5 months since? Do the chemical markers stay on hair not cut(have a forest of chest hair, not cut in years), cut head hair regularly... What I was wondering was would markers be left on chest hair that grew back in May...? I know I have the note, last time I worked for them they were known to reject a doctors note because it didn't say exactly what they wanted.... Finally start Monday, get tested next week, going to be a dedicated route with regular time off...
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Dedicated Route:
A driver or carrier who transports cargo between regular, prescribed routes. Normally it means a driver will be dedicated to working for one particular customer like Walmart or Home Depot and they will only haul freight for that customer. You'll often hear drivers say something like, "I'm on the Walmart dedicated account."
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.OWI:
Operating While Intoxicated
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Greetings, Matthew, and welcome to the forum! 😀
I would suggest starting a new post (with this question) out in the General Discussion area. That way your question will be seen by more people than just those who read this single topic.
There are plenty of great options to get your CDL paid for (I went that route myself) but I won't answer the question here because it covers a different topic than what's posted here in this thread.
Start a new topic in the Genetal Discussion area and all kinds of help and info will be posted there for ya! 👍
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.