I Need A Good Trucking Company To Go Where They Do Not Lie To You HELP !

Just realize that if it is anything like the Prime lease program, if you owe money (negative earnings) you are still responsible for the money. So I would recommend you find out about ending your lease early what you are responsible for in the way of payments/money owed.

Ernie

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Just realize that if it is anything like the Prime lease program, if you owe money (negative earnings) you are still responsible for the money. So I would recommend you find out about ending your lease early what you are responsible for in the way of payments/money owed.

Ernie

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I started working for Trans am , they really press you to sign the lease, yes I did. I fell for it. Three weeks into it I am not seeing what was promised, I have been averaging close to 3000 miles a week, no tickets, no accidents. Is there any other place I can go, or is it a requirement by companies to lie and let you dig a hole for yourself while you pay their bills. Dispatch is no good , or either planners , i am not sure , but i want a job that pays for workers that work. Please help.....

Well the first question is can you get out of the lease without losing your financial life in the process? Maybe they'll just let you be a company driver instead?

ok, thanks for the input. I am most definitely still adjusting to this job and lifestyle. Maybe there were some things they could have warned us about instead of making it all seem great. Regardless, I love driving, I like my job . I feel stupid for getting on here and complaining or venting. The readings for new drivers are very helpful and I am thankful for this site. I'm not giving up that easy, tomorrow is a new day. Thanks.

No need to delete squidly... You tell it like it is... Nothing to be sorry about. If these lease deals really are "dead in the water" propositions, as many here say, then these companies are unethical... And you're right... Omitting important information often is a form of lying. Some people here do exhibit a knee-jerk reaction to take the company side... Even when that company is engaging in something as shady as pushing new drivers into lease deals.

Some people here do exhibit a knee-jerk reaction to take the company side

Indy, I for one, would love to hear you elaborate on your snide little jab, and point out who these "some people" are. I'll tell you straight up that was a cowardly attempt at trying to sound superior to others in this forum.

And if you could, while you are at it, please explain why you consider our well thought out attempts at saving people like Squidly from the obvious pitfalls of leasing as a "knee jerk" reaction.

We painstakingly continue to warn people all the time of the problems and issues involved in these truck leasing programs, and we continue it in the face of much opposition to our stance. There is nothing "knee jerk" in our approach. In fact had poor Squidly found us a little sooner he might possibly not be in here begging for help the way he is now. He is a prime example of how these programs can wipe a person out financially.

Maybe there were some things they could have warned us about instead of making it all seem great.

Look at what Squidly himself said!

Is that not what we do all the time? We are constantly trying to warn you guys about the problems involved in leasing! Our attempts to keep people from going over, what to us is an obvious cliff, have never been anything close to a "knee jerk" reaction... Please!... If I can settle down now, I'm gonna try and get some sleep.

Old School, if I'm reading Indy right, he's not jabbing at company drivers versus lease, he's saying companies lie and that company supporters have knee jerk reactions to defend the companies. Basically saying something about the "man".

People need to be honest with themselves, you are working for a trucking company and the only thing your company can 100% guarantee is that you will have a truck with them, you will be put on a dispatcher's board, and they will pay you based on whatever that company agrees to pay you on.

The rest of the story is up to the driver. Hard work, dedication, great attitude, handling well under pressure, maturity, and making the system work for them.

People are deluding themselves with stories about the big bad company being out to get them when a little common sense could show the truth.

Squidly, read your lease contract and find out what the exit clause is. You should have read that contract inside and out to begin with but, I won't lecture you. See if you can move to company before you get in too deep. You posted here before this recent thread and there are a million topics on this forum that give the truth about leasing. Good luck getting yourself moved over and get rolling so you can put the mess behind you.

Indy, I apologize if I misread what you were saying.

I guess I should sleep first, then look at the forum.

I have lost 1 day already because I had to fix a truck I have only had 2 weeks, another day today because,well, we just don't have any loads for you until tomorrow. Can you understand how this might look in the eyes of a new guy ???

There are a ton of ups and downs in trucking. They certainly won't always have freight available and the truck will break down from time to time, even a new one. In fact, I would rather get in a truck with about 50,000 miles on it than get a new one out of the factory because they tend to be a bit buggy in the very beginning.

What they do not tell you is, you can not make the money they promise unless you are a trainer, and you have Consistent loads

Well you said you're getting 3,000 miles per week so that's about as good as it gets for anyone running solo. But you're right, a lot of lease drivers take students with them and run team to make those payments and put some money in their pockets.

Some people here do exhibit a knee-jerk reaction to take the company side... Even when that company is engaging in something as shady as pushing new drivers into lease deals.

There's no other way to interpret that. That was certainly yet another jab by the all-knowing Indy who never does anything except criticize us for saying you shouldn't lease a truck, even when our point is being demonstrated. But this seems to be a new type of criticism. Usually we're ignorant for saying you shouldn't lease a truck from a company but now apparently we're "on The Man's side" because we're somehow "taking the side" of shady companies? No matter what we say Indy doesn't like it.

We might debate his suggestions in return if he ever actually tried offering anyone a helpful solution to their challenges but it's the same pattern every time - someone comes here looking for advice, we offer our best, Indy doesn't like it and criticizes it but offers nothing of value. I just told him a couple of weeks ago to take a hike and stop posting in this forum because he's never done anything except take shots at everyone but he can't help himself apparently. That's just who he is. People with nothing of value to offer only really have one option - try to make everyone else look bad. It's far from a new strategy.

Squidly66, you never said if they would let you out of that lease or not, or what the financial ramifications might be. I've heard Prime will allow you to walk away from a lease under certain circumstances but I don't know anything about Trans Am's program. If you can get out of that lease and get onto the company side, even at a small loss, it's probably worth doing.

Squidly is in a bind... It's unfortunate that he didn't find this site sooner and heed it's advice about staying away from leasing, but what's done is done... Pat's scolding was completely unhelpful, ... that's why I responded. Regarding the subject of leasing and my comments in the past... I have been trying to get to the "truth" of the matter. On the one hand, there is this site's clearly stated stance (which I have been swayed to believe), then there is all of these companies telling drivers something completely opposite. If these companies are pressuring new drivers to sign on to leases that the company knows full well will end in financial disaster for most of these drivers, what does that say about those companies? This is not some general paranoia about "the Man" as realist suggested.

And, you exaggerate when you say that all I do is criticize your site. I have said more than once here how much I appreciate and have benefited from it. And, I have promoted your site at other websites, and when I was in school I referred other students here. But, I don't like the heavy-handed way in which you deal with those that disagree with you... You're a little quick to start in with the ridicule and name calling when it happens... and then the delete button. But, I still like your site, and continued to read here every day... even though you told me to take a hike (I'd probably of done the same if it were my site)... and, I've tried to hold my tongue... which I've done for the most part... even on the " you snooze, you lose" thread ... and, there was a lot I wanted to say about that...

10 year military, me too only more whoopee. What has that got to do with the price of cheese in China? Yep I said young and you are under 30 right? I sure wish people would quit trying to use the military card, we volunteered.

Indy and Squid, Yes I came off kinda harsh (the older I get the less patience I have) but that is what it takes at times to get through to people. YOU are the one responsible for what happens and still blaming the company as that makes you feel better. But EVERY time someone gets into this situation it is the company's fault. If you had even read any of the trucking forums you would have learned that leasing is BAD. You did not do your research very well and that is on you Squid. Did you even talk to any of the lease drivers at the company before you signed? I'll bet that you folded under the pressure at orientation.

Oh well, what is done is done, now you have to give us more info on how you get out of it. Not what they told you but what is written in your lease agreement.

I am probably the biggest proponent to owning your own truck but I am with everyone else when it comes to leasing. It is a bad bad idea. I am even for buying a used truck that is older. I have seen how much maintenance an older truck requires. The truck I drove up until a couple of months ago was 21 years old and still going strong and only in the shop twice all of last year. They just moved me into a heavier truck or I would still be driving it. When I am ready financially, I will be purchasing my own truck despite what others think here.