Correct Way To Log 34

I would never get a 10 hour reset if I logged 5 hours sleeper,15 minutes off duty for restroom,then another 5 hours sleeper?

Sure you will as long as you are either off duty or sleeper or a combination of the two.

You change status from Sleeper to Off Duty on the QC. Would your off time continue counting, or would the Qualcomm start the count over? (You could go back and edit it, then it will work. But that defeats the point here.)

I would never get a 10 hour reset if I logged 5 hours sleeper,15 minutes off duty for restroom,then another 5 hours sleeper?

Sure you will as long as you are either off duty or sleeper or a combination of the two.

You change status from Sleeper to Off Duty on the QC. Would your off time continue counting, or would the Qualcomm start the count over? (You could go back and edit it, then it will work. But that defeats the point here.)

You can change your status from off duty to sleeper or sleeper to off duty and your 34 hour clock will continue to count. Has to be only line 1 or line 2 or a combination of the two. Only reason your 34 hour restart clock would start over if you went to line 3 or 4.

GuyJax explains:

You can change your status from off duty to sleeper or sleeper to off duty and your 34 hour clock will continue to count. Has to be only line 1 or line 2 or a combination of the two. Only reason your 34 hour restart clock would start over if you went to line 3 or 4.

Thank you Sir. I'm too chicken to play with the buttons when it might mean my no-drive time. Now I have to stop hanging out on the computer and go out to mow the lawn - OFF DUTY MOWING LAWN.

I see what you guys are saying about the 34.

As far as the 10, I was under the impression that you have at least 8 hours in the sleeper uninterrupted. So going to off-duty for 15 minutes at the 5 hour mark would interrupt it and you'd have to have 8 more hours in the sleeper after. Am I wrong?

I see what you guys are saying about the 34.

As far as the 10, I was under the impression that you have at least 8 hours in the sleeper uninterrupted. So going to off-duty for 15 minutes at the 5 hour mark would interrupt it and you'd have to have 8 more hours in the sleeper after. Am I wrong?

There's nothing in the rule books that demands X amount of consecutive hours on SB for a 10 hour break. But, it's a good idea. I also do this so that there would be no doubt that I'm well rested. The last thing I want is a DOT officer questioning if I'm rested enough to drive safely because I kept on going to the bathroom every 3 hours. So to answer your question, it's not a rule, but it's a good idea to follow.

I see what you guys are saying about the 34.

As far as the 10, I was under the impression that you have at least 8 hours in the sleeper uninterrupted. So going to off-duty for 15 minutes at the 5 hour mark would interrupt it and you'd have to have 8 more hours in the sleeper after. Am I wrong?

You have to understand that although the way the rules are written that there is alot of grey area. In one part of the HOS it states 8 consecutive hours of sleeper and 2 off duty. But it also says your logs have to be up to date with last duty status change but that is dealing with the 10 hour rest break and not a 34 hour restart. Confused yet? Oh wait it gets better.

If you read the HOS some obviously, going by this post, are interpeting it one way and some are interpeting it a different way. Guess who is right? No one and everyone! But the main person that counts is the officer on the side of the road reading your logbook. He may have a different interpretation of the HOS and it's his opinion that will count in the end. And the judge will 9 out of 10 times side with the officer that was actually on the side of the road looking at your logbook.

So with all that being said what Daniel and I are trying to say is that the way we do our log books is the way that most DOT officers want to see it done. Hence why companies say "Log what you do and do what you log". It's the safest and least troublesome way to avoid the DOT messing with you.

The way they interpet the HOS rules is this:

Out of truck and not working= Off duty. I. E. Bathroom breaks or in a truck stop or can even be your 30 minute break or a stay in a hotel for 34 hours.

Physically in the sleeper = Sleep Berth. No exceptions. But if you leave the truck for bathroom or eating its off duty. It's very reasonable for the officer to assume you left the truck at some point during the 34 hour restart.

Even this stuff is open to interpretation but it's built on years of experience and I have never received a log book violations

Once I start clock for the day,the 14 hour clock continues to run,until reset.I try to use sleeper whenever possible to save 70 hour clock.If I run my 14 down to zero,I dont believe,there is a way to go off duty,without commiting a hos violation.With electronic logs ,you cannot lie about your location,Im guessing a reasonable officer,would understand,34 hours sleeper at same location.Better to commit obvious infraction,or wait until questioned?

Now this is only my belief and you miles may vary.....

I don't run illegal. I don't allow my company to tell me what I need to be doing as far as my logbook is concerned. That is why I love elogs. Another thing to consider is where you will be shutting down at for you 10 break. You may have to stop earlier due to safe and proper place to stop for your break.

It's better to not commit a log violation, if at all possible, than to wait till you are caught doing it. I will not work for a company that forces drivers to do unsafe things and that includes violating the HOS.

Remember it's your CDL that is on the line and YOU control what happens. If you allow yourself to be pushed to many times and you rack up violations then you will be sitting at home wondering if you will be able to get another job. It's not worth the risk.